Troll Talk: Carbon Dating vs Noah's Ark

One of the routes creationists attempt to discredit evolution and scientist's estimation of Earth's age is through the possible degradation of Carbon 14 when exposed to sunlight for prolonged periods of time. Of course there have been cases where C-14 dating has been inaccurate do to external contamination, this is the exception and not the rule. Yet these exceptions are enough for creationists to totally discredit C-14 dating; thus also discrediting evolution and the scientific community's estimation of Earth's age even though the Earth's age is calculated with several forms of forms of dating and not carbon dating. Their argument then follows that since evolution has been "discredited," Judeo-Christian folklore is the truthful explanation of the origin of life on Earth. This of course is a logical fallacy known as the False Dilemma.

Barring this information since it is too complicated for them to understand or too long to read, I like to point out their lack of skeptism for ludicrous fables in the Bible like Noah's Ark.

Buck: I love how people try to punch holes in carbon dating as if this is the only way scientists date things. All this effort to bring down the scientific community's general concensus and yet not one skeptical thought about two of every animal (seven of the ones deemed clean) on earth somehow making it across seas and continents to somehow fit in a wooden boat to survive a rainstorm that lasts forty days and forty nights. And while we are at it, all the plant life that he must have taken seeds from as well seeing that most plants would die after being underwater for forty days and forty nights.

Christian Fundamentalist #1: O-M-N-I-P-O-T-E-N-C-E

C-R-E-A-T-O-R

G-O-D

Buck:C-O-P-O-U-T

F-O-R

I-N-C-O-N-V-E-N-I-E-N-T

F-A-C-T-S

Christian Fundamentalist #2: Well the question asked specifically pertained to Carbon Dating; thus, so did the answer.

As far as the theory of two of every animal on the ark - yeah it's amazing. But more sensible than every animal on every continent evolved from a rock some 4.6 billion years ago.

You strain at a nat, but swallow a camel.

Buck: No, it is more likely that life evolved from a common source and the flood story which was found in Sumerian texts like Gilgamesh that predate the Bible and are allegorical. Nice paraphrasing of Jesus' words though. And like I said, carbon dating is not the only way scientists date things. Furthermore, since you all believe disproving one scientific method merits accepting Judeo-Christian folklore as the explanation for the origins of terrestrial life, then humor me as I flip that false dilemma and question how every single species of animal on the planet fit on a boat fashioned from gopher wood.

If you can be so critical of scientific method why can't you be critical of Noah's Ark?

Straining at a gnat only to to swallow a camel indeed.

Christian Fundamentalist #2: The Bible doesn't say every species, it says every kind. Big difference. And how coincidental is it that God's instructions to build the Ark were 6 to 1 length to width ratio; the exact same ratio as the U.S. Navy uses in modern Aircraft Carriers today?!

Buck: And aircraft carriers can house all species of animals? You people don't believe in speciation because that is measurable evidence of evolution, but let's forget that. Let's just say you took every type of animal minus the varying degrees of speciation, just try and fit them all on an aircraft carrier. Let's also keep in mind that you are building one out of gopherwood, and building it with just you and your family.

Please, bring up some other irrelevent factoid so I can shoot it down. I find this amusing.

***UPDATE***

Christian Fundamentalist #3: My friend ***** just walked into the room and wants me to write this:

"I work at a nursery (plants), and I know for a fact that plant seeds, when they are drowned, actually become active. When the find a proper media(i.e. soil) and proper growing conditions, they will grow.
Although there would have been no trees after the flood waters receeded, it has been proven that seeds can migrate through floods, explaining how many types of plants got throughout the world. i.e. Plants in New Zealand have been found in the americas, and no one knew how, until now."

Buck: Fair enough, then Noah and his family died of mulnutrition and scurvy shortly after because all their food had gone bad and trees took too long to mature to the point that they could produce fruit.

Christian Fundamentalist #3: I just had a thought (this is KJ not ***** now).

Perhaps Noah and his family grew plants on board the Ark, I mean Why not? all they would have to do, is have some wooden boundaries, and some dirt from the ground outside, and BAM there you have it, an ideal growing environment.

Am I being a

"C-O-P-O-U-T

F-O-R

I-N-C-O-N-V-E-N-I-E-N-T

F-A-C-T-S" too?

Buck: No, you are just taking up more of the extremly confined space in Noah's Ark that is already not big enough to house two of every kind of animal on Earth, seven of every clean. As for my spelling out of "copout for inconvenient facts, " that was intended for his oversimplistic dissmisal of space, the number of different types of animals in the world, and plant life that couldn't possibly fit on an ark in the form of:

O-M-N-I-P-O-T-E-N-C-E

C-R-E-A-T-O-R

G-O-D


Because if that is all that matters, then why build the ark in the first place?

*sigh* back to being ignored...